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Topic: Party poker rules
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Acessuited
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posted 12-18-2003 12:54 PM
  
Here's my story
Lately i've been playing NL single table tourneys. Near the end of them (4-5 people left min and blinds 150/300 at least) when I get a pocket pair I will say what I have.
So theres 3 of us left i'm in BB with QQ. Chip leader raises up to 900, SB folds, I say I have QQ and raise all in for about 2200, he thinks for a bit and folds. SB says that i'm not allowed to talk about my hand, he says check the rules. I look in the rules but can't find it anywhere. It doesn't make sense that you wouldn't be able to in that situation. Anyways I went on to win it.Question 1: do you guys think saying my hand is a good idea? (its been working well so far) Question 2: anyone know if that is actually a rule? IP: Logged |
Acessuited
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posted 12-18-2003 12:56 PM
oh, and I just say my hand because i'd rather take the blinds than go up against ax. BTW, i've only done this with QQ, won't with KK or AA and might with JJIP: Logged |
RobBulliT
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posted 12-18-2003 03:32 PM
I don't see the problem really, atleast u where honest. :-)IP: Logged |
brains
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posted 12-18-2003 03:33 PM
I dont know about online, but in live tournaments you are not allowed to talk about your hand at all. I think this is mainly due to the fact that it hurts players not in the hand, who would generally want to see the action take place, it also prevents collusion between 2 friends in a tournament who find themselves heads-up, but dont want to risk illiminating themselves. Coincidently I just watched day 2 of the WSOP where in a hand player 1 had kj and his opponent had aq; the flop and turn contained xkjq and the first player moved all in at this point. As the 2nd player considered his move, player 1 said something like, "if I showed you a king, would that help you decide", the 2nd player called and was illiminated. Afterwards there was a discussion at the table and TJ Cloutier warned him not to talk about his hand or he is risking being fined by the officials.
But why do you say what you have? with QQ I would want a call from someone with aq, aj, aT or an underpair, as QQ is big favourite against these hands (at least 65%), but if they believe you, they fold.
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bluffist
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posted 12-18-2003 03:37 PM
If you did that at my table, I'd warn you once. The next time you did it I'd email the support desk to get you thrown off the site.Discuss your cards after the hand is over. It can give MY OPPONENTS an advantage, and it's cheating. In case you don't get it, here's an example. I have AA. You have QQ. A third player has KQ. You announce "I have QQ". The third player sees there is only one more Q in the deck which reduces his odds, and he decides to fold instead of call. You just cost me money, and I'm pissed! IP: Logged |
srolle
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posted 12-18-2003 04:45 PM
guys,
you forget, this is party. They don't care about stuff like this at all, and if they did, they don't have the personnel to look into this stuff. its not terribly ethical, though.
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RobBulliT
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posted 12-18-2003 06:28 PM
What if the player to call asks what the All-in player has. Can he not reply?
I thought it was "ok" to trashtalk at the table.
I understand that when more then 2 are in a hand announcing your hand ain't ok.I never do this myself though, I prefer not to show my cards at all. IP: Logged |
Ruffian
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posted 12-18-2003 10:39 PM
Brains has it right. It could be that you and a friend are playing in the same tournament. You have a side deal where u spilt what ever you win ( 10% back or some such in a multi table game) To avoid going heads up with your "horse" you let him know. I know thats not what was going on ....but if it looks fishy it just might be. IP: Logged |
Acessuited
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posted 12-19-2003 01:43 PM
good enough
probably a better idea not to do it then.Oh and brains the reason i was doing this is because I don't want to risk all my chips and the tourney as a 65% favorite, i'd rather just take the blinds. IP: Logged |
gooch23
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posted 12-19-2003 01:55 PM
I have a question. In a live game that I play with some friends. Just 2 of us in the game and my opponent goes all in after the turn. I think I have the best hand and think it was a bad attempt at a bluff. As I ponder the call, I show him my cards and ask if he thinks I should call. His reaction tells me a lot. Is this wrong to do?IP: Logged |
brains
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posted 12-19-2003 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by gooch23:
I have a question. In a live game that I play with some friends. Just 2 of us in the game and my opponent goes all in after the turn. I think I have the best hand and think it was a bad attempt at a bluff. As I ponder the call, I show him my cards and ask if he thinks I should call. His reaction tells me a lot. Is this wrong to do?
No it is fine for you to do this, actually it is quite common. Even when not heads up as long as the action ends with your decision you can show your cards, as your friend cannot alter his choice to go all in, so this cannot lead to collusion. However, it WOULD be wrong for your friend, having gone all-in, to show you his cards as the action is not over, but I cant see an incentive for him to do this when heads up. IP: Logged |
gooch23
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posted 12-19-2003 03:29 PM
Good. Thank you.IP: Logged |
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